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What is your basic income like?

How high should the basic income be? Should everyone really get it? And who actually pays for it? We asked you how you would build your basic income - here are your most exciting answers.

We invited you to a discussion on Instagram and Facebook about who should receive a basic income, how it could be financed and which other benefits in your opinion could be omitted.

Within one day you discussed in over 150 articles what a Do-It-Yourself basic income could look like. Here is the essence of that debate.

750 or 1,500 euros? How much is enough

The question of the appropriate level of a basic income worries many people in particular: Write on Facebook Dana Agu to the fact that 1,000 euros is not yet an amount that people can live on.

Peter Ruehl Rather, it leaves open how high a basic income should be, and instead sets the following condition: “It should be designed in such a way that one can lead a life in dignity without having to fear of losing one's feet financially . ”

Others, on the other hand, give very specific figures: Facebook user ブ ラ ウ ン ス テ フ ァ ニ ー writes: "1,500 euros for every adult who cannot work due to health problems, 1,111 euros for everyone who can go to work as extra income from which nothing is deducted!"

Sydän Norsu believes: “The UBI should be high enough to enable a certain cultural participation in addition to the basic needs, and also, for example, to enable alternative forms of nutrition beyond the discounters. In my opinion, this currently means 1,200 to 1,500 euros. "

Beats on Instagram kuenstlerkati propose to structure the level of the basic income regionally and depending on, for example, the local rents. And Sandra Bochert comments on Facebook: "Well, I think, in order to be able to live reasonably well, there should already be 1,500 euros in basic income, with the option of being able to earn 1,200 euros tax-free."

All proposals range from 750 to 1,500 euros, but most of them are in favor of 1,200 to 1,500 euros basic income - or a multi-level system.

What about the kids

Who should actually receive a basic income? Wherever this question is asked in the comment columns, this immediately follows: Should children also receive a basic income? And if so, how much?

It is very often suggested that the basic income should be raised with increasing age. The approaches are different: 500 euros for children, 1000 euros for young people and 1,500 euros for adults, beat Sascha Höver and Facebook user ブ ラ ウ ン ス テ フ ァ ニ ー in front. Corinna Sim wants 750 euros for children, at least a part of which should be saved in an account.

Grit Geisler Instead of a basic income, he would prefer free benefits for children: “1,000 euros from 18 or 21 years of age. You can't give a child a larger sum every month. It would be better to have free local transport, school meals, free admission, etc. for children, so that they also get it. "

This approach of “paying out” concrete support in the form of other benefits with the basic income is something that many bring to the discussion not only in connection with children. Facebook user ブ ラ ウ ン ス テ フ ァ ニ ー suggests, for example, offering workshops on sensible investments or pension provision: "There should not" only "be money, but also help to make the most of it, so that society really becomes better and more beautiful for all living beings."

Karsten Behr writes: “An amount of money would be the last item to be considered. Before that, it would be about tax exemptions for electricity, goods and services. Exchanging, giving, lending would be more prominent. "

And how do we pay for all of this?

Of course, financing models are also hotly debated in our social channels - with very different ideas, but great agreement on one point: The money for an unconditional basic income should come from tax redistribution.

Sydän Norsu advocates a machine tax, i.e. a new levy from companies that employ many machines or robots but few human workers: “Actually, the basic income HAS been financed for a long time, since machines, robots and computers generate a lot. These tools are made by us humans, not by those who can pay for them and benefit from them now. "

Corinna Sim, Karl-Heinz Ritsche and many others are grappling with a financial transaction tax. Corinna would impose this tax on every financial transaction and even cash payments. Karl Heinz writes that he would tax every account movement, also in the private sector, at 0.01 percent.

But changes in income tax or VAT are also discussed. So would Corinna Sim In addition to the transaction tax, tax all incomes over an exemption of 1,500 euros per month with 40 percent and income over 200,000 euros per year even with 50 percent.

Heiko Terhechte has an idea about value added tax: “The basic income is financed by itself if the state stops all economic subsidies to keep jobs and the value added tax only increases by 2 to 4 percent.” Also Jutta Holtmann would not tax income from work, but consumption.

What happens when the basic income comes?

Almost all those in the discussion agree: With the introduction of the basic income, unemployment benefits I and II are to be abolished. In addition, many would also replace benefits such as BaföG and child benefit with a basic income, but not special needs, for example for illness or disability.

Some people even speak out in favor of abolishing pensions. “All transfer payments should be omitted. Pension as well. And everyone can get the pension contribution that they would otherwise pay and thus continue to provide for themselves, ”writes Christoph Horstmann. And Nicole Schulz would pay “no Hartz4, no unemployment benefits, no training allowances, no pensions” anymore.

Michaela Kerstan and others would pay a pension as well as income in addition to the basic income. She contradicts with it Christoph Horstmann: "People who live at the bottom of the subsistence level do not spend a cent on private pensions." Grit Geisler agrees with her: "The German citizen does not provide for his later retirement himself if he is not forced."

Does it really have to be unconditional?

Some suggestions trigger particularly heated debates on our social channels: Could there be a basic income for everyone, but only up to a fixed income limit or only on application? The advocates argue that those who do not need it can unsubscribe.

“When you select, it's no longer unconditional,” replies Heiko Terhechte on the idea of ​​an income limit. Jenny Hager writes: "The keyword is unconditional."

Holds basic income only on application Jenny Hager for unnecessary bureaucracy: “Everyone gets it. What people make of it is up to them. " Helmut Winkler adds: “Well, for some it has the touch of charity again, so that people who really need it don't apply for it. If you don't need it, you can donate it. "

"It should be the case that there are conditions for the unemployed who can work, so that they do not rest on the basic income," writes Sandra Bochert - and then receives numerous comments like this one from Sascha Höver: “It is amazing how deeply this myth has burned itself into people's minds that people would no longer want to work because of a UBI. There are many experiments on this that prove the exact opposite ”

Helmut Winkler sums up this debate as follows: “Ultimately, we are talking about a UBI. If we ever want to achieve it, we have to give it to everyone. Otherwise it won't happen. "

What is your do-it-yourself basic income like? Let us know in the comments which ideas you share and which suggestions you disagree with at all. Thank you for your opinion!

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